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energy independence. >> guest: the united states could develop not just ourselves but for china, india, europe and japan if we could develop a hydrogen economy and we could return petroleum to been primarily a petrochemical feedstock for plastics unit overnight change the balance of power and you would have an enormous shift away from men as well, saudi arabia, iran, iraq, russia and that would be much healthier for the world at large. >> host: this next caller has a question about energy virginia. >> caller: mr. speaker, i have a comment and question and you just partially answered it. seems to me that high standards of living are directly related to our energy consumption and the question is, how do we achieve achieve energy along with conservation and at the same time finding new energy sources? >> guest: q2 simultaneously for things. first you go and strengthen subsidize renewals, solar, wind, and biofuels because all those are available. second, you work on conservation including composite material. ups has a new then there are expementing with that is a composite material rather
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